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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I got the email about the free seminar? When did they send that out? I&#039;d like to go....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I got the email about the free seminar? When did they send that out? I&#8217;d like to go&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: gerdbath</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerdbath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy i&#039;m newbie here and would like to introduce myself

I&#039;m from Luxembourg and come to this forum from search engine.

Nice to meet you all :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy i&#8217;m newbie here and would like to introduce myself</p>
<p>I&#8217;m from Luxembourg and come to this forum from search engine.</p>
<p>Nice to meet you all <img src='http://www.amish-shah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: eixaldaSnowxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>eixaldaSnowxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well hey there guys, i&#039;ve been looking all over the internet for a GOOD black hat SEO forum.. I was looking for some suggestions 
from you guys to point me in the right direction.

Thanks a bunch, this place is great btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well hey there guys, i&#8217;ve been looking all over the internet for a GOOD black hat SEO forum.. I was looking for some suggestions<br />
from you guys to point me in the right direction.</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch, this place is great btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Amish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT post Ian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT post Ian!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The seminar and the info that was shared was well worth the price of admission. But you cannot become uber successful overnight. We were given years of knowledge in 3 days! Everyone learned a ton of aspects of CPA and very specific methods on the after seminar webinars. Although there were some quick fixes and tweaks, a lot of the info is not stuff you can do in a day. For example, list building is largely profitable, but it takes time. Same with testing and tracking. I can test and track many variables, but I have to wait to see if they are statistically significant. 

Another large part I took from the seminar was the mindset. These guys are hardcore and go into every part of the CPA game. It really opened my mind to how granular they get. 

Although I am not crazy rich, I feel it was awesome value and that when my business gets to certain points, I can just refer to my notes on what to do next. 

I was already success in CPA before going to the seminar, so to ask how much I have made from a result of my time at the seminar is a hard question. 

I have not even implemented 95% of the tactics and resources show and demonstrated at the seminar. I am progressively working towards it, but at them same time, I am a 1 person team working in a bedroom 14-18hrs a day. There are limits on what I can can done.

I can honestly say that the seminar did not disappoint. I have been to workshops and seminars before and felt like they were teaching stuff I already knew or were just boring. This was a perfect seminar because it was 100% geared towards CPA marketing, the thing I am most focused on right now.

The KEY to success is speed and implementation along with knowing when to stop or start campaings/keywords. I will let you know a secret right now. These guys are giving you the info, you just need to do it! If you were to go to the seminar and not do anything with the information you probably would have felt ripped off. I know a few people who were at the seminar and have no completely changed their business models to something totally unrelated to anything taught at the seminar. STOP chasing the next shiny object and just implement what you learned! There were also some people at the seminar who were asking me what a zip file is and how to open it.

COMMON PEOPLE. There were statements that said this is an event for advanced people. You should not be asking what a ZIP file is... wow.

The value of the seminar is based on how you interpreted it and if/how you will use the info.

For me it worked out great. I learned many new things that I am implementing or working on implementing every day.

-Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The seminar and the info that was shared was well worth the price of admission. But you cannot become uber successful overnight. We were given years of knowledge in 3 days! Everyone learned a ton of aspects of CPA and very specific methods on the after seminar webinars. Although there were some quick fixes and tweaks, a lot of the info is not stuff you can do in a day. For example, list building is largely profitable, but it takes time. Same with testing and tracking. I can test and track many variables, but I have to wait to see if they are statistically significant. </p>
<p>Another large part I took from the seminar was the mindset. These guys are hardcore and go into every part of the CPA game. It really opened my mind to how granular they get. </p>
<p>Although I am not crazy rich, I feel it was awesome value and that when my business gets to certain points, I can just refer to my notes on what to do next. </p>
<p>I was already success in CPA before going to the seminar, so to ask how much I have made from a result of my time at the seminar is a hard question. </p>
<p>I have not even implemented 95% of the tactics and resources show and demonstrated at the seminar. I am progressively working towards it, but at them same time, I am a 1 person team working in a bedroom 14-18hrs a day. There are limits on what I can can done.</p>
<p>I can honestly say that the seminar did not disappoint. I have been to workshops and seminars before and felt like they were teaching stuff I already knew or were just boring. This was a perfect seminar because it was 100% geared towards CPA marketing, the thing I am most focused on right now.</p>
<p>The KEY to success is speed and implementation along with knowing when to stop or start campaings/keywords. I will let you know a secret right now. These guys are giving you the info, you just need to do it! If you were to go to the seminar and not do anything with the information you probably would have felt ripped off. I know a few people who were at the seminar and have no completely changed their business models to something totally unrelated to anything taught at the seminar. STOP chasing the next shiny object and just implement what you learned! There were also some people at the seminar who were asking me what a zip file is and how to open it.</p>
<p>COMMON PEOPLE. There were statements that said this is an event for advanced people. You should not be asking what a ZIP file is&#8230; wow.</p>
<p>The value of the seminar is based on how you interpreted it and if/how you will use the info.</p>
<p>For me it worked out great. I learned many new things that I am implementing or working on implementing every day.</p>
<p>-Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Francesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just discovered this blog thanks to Frank Kern

really nice info..thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just discovered this blog thanks to Frank Kern</p>
<p>really nice info..thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Miller, (Sorry to be formal)

Thanks for that.  I love Amish and all his stuff the guy is great at what he does.  However in the real world it is not what he does.  It is about what and how he teaches to make a success of his students.  For me that is the real measure.  I come from a background (Pro footballer.  That’s Soccer to you Guys) where if the teacher fails the student fails and the teacher is to blame.   Not because of a student not taking action (Buzz word for we took your money and you @uckd up don&#039;t blame me or us) but because if it were that easy to make it then we wouldn&#039;t need to pitch and promote our s**t to make it sound easy!  Another example of this is motivation.  Now when we train everyday do you think that the training revolves around theory?  No he trains with the juniors, he will see and talk with the pros.  He will see what they do and how they do it.  He aspires to be like them as he will see the rewards they get.  We don&#039;t give him videos, books and 2 day lectures from the pros and say look this is what I do you can too!  When we take on apprentices we do our background to make sure they have what it takes before investing time and effort on both sides.  An old saying from the sales courses I took was beware of the mirror test before taking someone on.  If you put a mirror under their nose and steam forms it does not make them a suitable candidate! Now I am not saying Amish falls into this category but many marketers pitch this way and quite frankly it&#039;s B@llox!

I am not an Amish hater at all.  I have followed him for a long time when he was with Larry back in the day.  I like his style and his stuff.  But you know some people need a reality check with comments and I am not saying you are not talking from heart felt experience.  I just want to know how real that experience is.  So apologies if it comes across that way.

Anyway excluding the above rant may I just politely ask as I can gather from your post you had a great time at the seminar.  How much are you actually making as a result of your time there?  That to me is the true measure of any teaching.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Miller, (Sorry to be formal)</p>
<p>Thanks for that.  I love Amish and all his stuff the guy is great at what he does.  However in the real world it is not what he does.  It is about what and how he teaches to make a success of his students.  For me that is the real measure.  I come from a background (Pro footballer.  That’s Soccer to you Guys) where if the teacher fails the student fails and the teacher is to blame.   Not because of a student not taking action (Buzz word for we took your money and you @uckd up don&#8217;t blame me or us) but because if it were that easy to make it then we wouldn&#8217;t need to pitch and promote our s**t to make it sound easy!  Another example of this is motivation.  Now when we train everyday do you think that the training revolves around theory?  No he trains with the juniors, he will see and talk with the pros.  He will see what they do and how they do it.  He aspires to be like them as he will see the rewards they get.  We don&#8217;t give him videos, books and 2 day lectures from the pros and say look this is what I do you can too!  When we take on apprentices we do our background to make sure they have what it takes before investing time and effort on both sides.  An old saying from the sales courses I took was beware of the mirror test before taking someone on.  If you put a mirror under their nose and steam forms it does not make them a suitable candidate! Now I am not saying Amish falls into this category but many marketers pitch this way and quite frankly it&#8217;s B@llox!</p>
<p>I am not an Amish hater at all.  I have followed him for a long time when he was with Larry back in the day.  I like his style and his stuff.  But you know some people need a reality check with comments and I am not saying you are not talking from heart felt experience.  I just want to know how real that experience is.  So apologies if it comes across that way.</p>
<p>Anyway excluding the above rant may I just politely ask as I can gather from your post you had a great time at the seminar.  How much are you actually making as a result of your time there?  That to me is the true measure of any teaching.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Amish,

Don&#039;t bite the bait!

When are coming Asia to do a seminar? Feel like entering a 3 Billion people market? They don&#039;t have personal debt here!

Merry Xmas - Shen dan kuaile (Chinese)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Amish,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bite the bait!</p>
<p>When are coming Asia to do a seminar? Feel like entering a 3 Billion people market? They don&#8217;t have personal debt here!</p>
<p>Merry Xmas &#8211; Shen dan kuaile (Chinese)</p>
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		<title>By: AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in the IM Business to Market products and there is nothing wrong with that, Amish... don&#039;t let them dummies bother you brother.

One thing that i feel though, with the abundance of info being pushed down our throats... the majority suffer from the over load, either we like it or not. Endless markets to tap into, endless marketing strategies, tactics etc... how much can a brain handle !! 

Would be nice to share your input about the new make over of the AC guys , now being called the MiddleManSystem or so... 

Here is some Free feedback for ya.... since u share some quality content with me...
About being in the trenches n theme, hehe we just expected more from you... i personally think that when you come online strong, launch a high ticket item, then give free content...you kill ur own market.... you had the market build up expectations and perceive Amish as a ninja... now you are being the sweet heart that gives ....pack up your info and sell it, you did wicked with the pre-launch content of the seminar... 

Cheers brother 
AL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in the IM Business to Market products and there is nothing wrong with that, Amish&#8230; don&#8217;t let them dummies bother you brother.</p>
<p>One thing that i feel though, with the abundance of info being pushed down our throats&#8230; the majority suffer from the over load, either we like it or not. Endless markets to tap into, endless marketing strategies, tactics etc&#8230; how much can a brain handle !! </p>
<p>Would be nice to share your input about the new make over of the AC guys , now being called the MiddleManSystem or so&#8230; </p>
<p>Here is some Free feedback for ya&#8230;. since u share some quality content with me&#8230;<br />
About being in the trenches n theme, hehe we just expected more from you&#8230; i personally think that when you come online strong, launch a high ticket item, then give free content&#8230;you kill ur own market&#8230;. you had the market build up expectations and perceive Amish as a ninja&#8230; now you are being the sweet heart that gives &#8230;.pack up your info and sell it, you did wicked with the pre-launch content of the seminar&#8230; </p>
<p>Cheers brother<br />
AL</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I can vouch for Amish and say that I know at least 2 of those products are by internet marketers that provide huge value in their products (I&#039;ve bought from them before) and him recommending products is by no means just an &quot;affiliate pitch&quot; to make money. 

This dude makes insane amounts of cash in CPA marketing already, a couple pitches for good products isn&#039;t going to make much of a difference to his 6 figure A DAY income. Can&#039;t you just consider the possibility that these products are actually worth taking a look at and not just a pitch to buy from his affiliate links? 

And damnnnn Ian...lucky you. I missed out on the event in August but would really love the chance to go to the next one if he opens it up to more people. (And get the &quot;magic bullet&quot; software ;) 

I Couldn&#039;t afford to get to the event, but I&#039;ve been working hard to earn a living off CPA marketing and I&#039;m sure going to one of Amish&#039;s events would take my earnings to the next level.

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I can vouch for Amish and say that I know at least 2 of those products are by internet marketers that provide huge value in their products (I&#8217;ve bought from them before) and him recommending products is by no means just an &#8220;affiliate pitch&#8221; to make money. </p>
<p>This dude makes insane amounts of cash in CPA marketing already, a couple pitches for good products isn&#8217;t going to make much of a difference to his 6 figure A DAY income. Can&#8217;t you just consider the possibility that these products are actually worth taking a look at and not just a pitch to buy from his affiliate links? </p>
<p>And damnnnn Ian&#8230;lucky you. I missed out on the event in August but would really love the chance to go to the next one if he opens it up to more people. (And get the &#8220;magic bullet&#8221; software <img src='http://www.amish-shah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I Couldn&#8217;t afford to get to the event, but I&#8217;ve been working hard to earn a living off CPA marketing and I&#8217;m sure going to one of Amish&#8217;s events would take my earnings to the next level.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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